
If you've ever said, "Most of my business comes from referrals," you're not alone.
In fact, many interior designers wear it as a badge of honor.
And while referrals are one of the best indicators that you're doing great work, they come with one major limitation:
You don't control them.
One month your phone is ringing off the hook. The next, things slow down—and you're left wondering where your next project is coming from.
That's not because you're a bad designer.
It's because referrals alone don't create a predictable business.
In this week's episode, Michelle Lynne and I discuss why relying solely on referrals can actually hold your business back and what to do instead.
We explore how successful design firms build consistent marketing systems through SEO, blogs, email marketing, social media, and a documented sales process that continues generating opportunities long after a project is complete.
If your goal is to build a business that's more profitable, more predictable, and less stressful to run, this episode is for you.
Listen in to discover why referrals should be one part of your marketing strategy—not the entire strategy.

I’m an interior designer with an MBA and nearly 20 years in the industry. When I’m not leading my coast-to-coast, multi-million dollar firm, I love sharing real talk on the business of design, blending insights from 20 years as a business professor. I keep it honest—balancing work and chasing my two girls around.

If you've ever said, "Most of my business comes from referrals," you're not alone.
In fact, many interior designers wear it as a badge of honor.
And while referrals are one of the best indicators that you're doing great work, they come with one major limitation:
You don't control them.
One month your phone is ringing off the hook. The next, things slow down—and you're left wondering where your next project is coming from.
That's not because you're a bad designer.
It's because referrals alone don't create a predictable business.
In this week's episode, Michelle Lynne and I discuss why relying solely on referrals can actually hold your business back and what to do instead.
We explore how successful design firms build consistent marketing systems through SEO, blogs, email marketing, social media, and a documented sales process that continues generating opportunities long after a project is complete.
If your goal is to build a business that's more profitable, more predictable, and less stressful to run, this episode is for you.
Listen in to discover why referrals should be one part of your marketing strategy—not the entire strategy.

If you've ever said, "Most of my business comes from referrals," you're not alone.
In fact, many interior designers wear it as a badge of honor.
And while referrals are one of the best indicators that you're doing great work, they come with one major limitation:
You don't control them.
One month your phone is ringing off the hook. The next, things slow down—and you're left wondering where your next project is coming from.
That's not because you're a bad designer.
It's because referrals alone don't create a predictable business.
In this week's episode, Michelle Lynne and I discuss why relying solely on referrals can actually hold your business back and what to do instead.
We explore how successful design firms build consistent marketing systems through SEO, blogs, email marketing, social media, and a documented sales process that continues generating opportunities long after a project is complete.
If your goal is to build a business that's more profitable, more predictable, and less stressful to run, this episode is for you.
Listen in to discover why referrals should be one part of your marketing strategy—not the entire strategy.
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insightful conversations & super RELATABLE!
Excited for a podcast directed towards interior designers that covers the business and creative mindsets needed to run a successful firm. Throwing in life balance to every conversation makes this super relatable. Great conversations.
Colorful Conversations is like having a fun chat with your artsy friend who also knows how to create success! Katie's podcast is a must-listen for folks who love design and want to make money from their creative passions. She keeps you in the loop about the latest design trends while dropping priceless tips on turning your creativity into a successful business. Whether you're a design enthusiast or a budding entrepreneur, Katie's show is a goldmine of ideas and inspiration. So, tune in and get ready to blend style and success with her friendly and informative episodes – you won't want to miss it!
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